Making Tears For Fears: The Hurting
By Classic Pop | August 19, 2021

In 1983 Tears For Fearsโ The Hurting introduced the world to a band that blended bleak musings on the long-term effects of childhood trauma with a razor-sharp synth-pop instinct. The result: an instant classicโฆ By Wyndham Wallace
When Roland Orzabal was growing up โ first in Portsmouth and later in Bath โ his parents ran an entertainment agency for working menโs clubs. Among the guests auditioning at his home were singers, ventriloquists and strippers; even his mother was a stripper.
It was, you might say, inevitable that heโd end up on stage himself. But if this sounds like a boisterous childhood, behind the curtains things were less happy. Orzabalโs parents were at loggerheads: his father, a WW2 veteran, was far from healthy and given to fits of fury that drove his wife away after bursts of domestic violence.
But Roland was about to meet his future musical partner Curt Smith, who was also enduring a troubled childhood, growing up on a local council estate in a broken home where money was a significant problem.
โHe was a lot more rebellious than I was,โ Orzabal recalls, โwhich shocked me because I was a good boy at school and quite conservative as a character. We were out once in Bath, and a police car pulled up and said, โCome with me.โ Curt stole a couple of violins from the school for my birthday present. Not that I played the violin!โ
Thankfully, Orzabalโs musical partnership with Smith would flourish in other ways and lead to the monumental 1983 album The Hurting.
That album โ and, to a degree, 1985โs multi-million-selling follow-up, Songs From The Big Chair โ were, as Smith puts it, therapeutic attempts to โfind out why our backgrounds were so messed upโ.
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Mutual therapy
Orzabal found Smithโs recklessness as appealing as Smith found Orzabalโs intellect, but the two really gelled after Orzabalโs guitar teacher pressed a copy of The Primal Scream, by US psychotherapist Arthur Janov, into his hands. Orzabal was already buried in existentialist books by the likes of Sartre and Beckett, and this new addition to his library became his bible.
โAged 17 or 18, I was an absolute convert to Janovian โprimal theoryโ,โ Orzabal says, though Smith adds that, โThe fact that youโre screwed up because of your parents is hardly brain surgery. We were both slightly evangelical about it.โ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Mad World
Nowadays, Orzabal jokes that his pious proselytism turned him into โa primal boreโ. But, as the two of them sought to make sense of their psyches, Janovโs tactics โ to revisit childhood trauma โ provided a framework for their lives to such an extent that it would eventually give them a name for their band.
Tears For Fears, however, was not their first musical endeavour together. Theyโd already experimented with friends, playing everything from folk to rock, and signed their first deal at 18 with a moddish band called Graduate, known in Spain for their radio hit Elvis Should Play Ska.
The band recorded one album, but the experience was most notable, Smith argues, for teaching them โwhat not to do: we learned that we werenโt made for travelling in two mini-vans. I donโt think we were comfortable in the live setting. And we donโt like being in five-person democracies where we constantly get outvoted by the others, even though weโre the only two that write songs.โ
Inspired in part by Gary Numan, whose use of technology proved that you didnโt need a band to make music, they split from Graduate and set about recording as a duo.
Hooking up with local producer David Lord โ whoโd already co-produced The Korgisโ Everybodyโs Got To Learn Sometime, and whoโd soon helm Peter Gabrielโs fourth album โ they demoed their first songs, including Suffer The Children, at Bathโs Crescent Studios.
A meeting at a โvegetarian discoโ (in fact, the cityโs enduring Moles club) with Ian Stanley โ a โrich kidโ, Smith says, who had his own studio and would go on to join the band on keyboards โ allowed them to experiment with their sound.
Their publishing company from their Graduate days, run by Tony Hatch, composer of the Crossroads theme, helped get them signed. Only two showed interest: A&M, and Polygramโs David Bates, who recalls how he nearly let the band slip through his fingers after being played songs by the publisherโs representative, Les Burgess.
โLesโ job was to visit A&R managers and play them songs in the hope that one would be picked and used for a recording session,โ says Bates. โAs usual, I had no artists looking for songs. After heโd gone, I thought about one of the cassettes Iโd heard. I ran after him, stopped the lift, asked for the cassette and told him I wanted to listen to it a couple of times over the week. After another play, I was sure the songwriters would be an interesting act.โ
To the duo, the only surprise was that it took so long to get a deal. โWe were sure of ourselves,โ Smith smiles. โI remember arguing with A&R people that turned us down. Iโd say, โWell, youโll be sorry one dayโฆโโ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Change
But their confidence required stamina. The deal with Polygram was only for two singles, and neither 1981โs Suffer The Children nor 1982โs Pale Shelter (produced by ex-Gong member Mike Howlett) charted.
โNormally, youโre either a critically acclaimed band that are pretty deep,โ Smith elaborates of the difficulties they faced making commercial headway, โor youโre a pop band, and never the twain shall meet. But we achieved that. We had the screaming girls, which is the pop side, and we had people analysing our lyrics. College kids who were deeper thinkers appreciated us. So it was a weird mixture and people didnโt quite understand.โ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Worlds ahead
After further recordings with Mike Howlett left the band dissatisfied, they turned to Chris Hughes. โWe didnโt know he was Merrick in Adam And The Ants,โ Orzabal laughs. โWe knew him from a band called Dalek I Love You. We just saw him as a record producer.โ
As it happened, Orzabal had already spoken with Hughes in early 1982 after the producer had wandered past Batesโ London office during a visit that coincided with the duoโs embryonic sessions with Howlett.
โDavid shouts, โCome have a word with this guy on the phone,โโ Hughes remembers. โI spoke to a quietly-spoken gentleman who was concerned about some recordings heโd made. I listened, tried to allay his fears and handed back the phone. Some time later, when discussions about producers were being held, the highly articulate Roland Orzabal said, โWhat about that guy I spoke to on the phone? Iโd like to meet him.โโ
To begin with, it turned out to be a felicitous collaboration, with Hughes working alongside engineer Ross Cullum, and its first real fruits were unexpected, as Bates reveals: โChris called me one night and asked me to come by the studio and listen to a B-side theyโd been working on. I was enthralled. This was no B-side. I wanted this out as soon as possible as an A-side. If this gave me a hit โ small, low-end charts โ it would give us time to complete the album without pressure.โ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Pale Shelter
The song was Mad World and, as Bates continues, โIt was like nothing out there: a little slow, maybe, but what a chorus! The sound was unique. I believed this was a hit. The hit we needed โ the hit I needed.โ
The band recognised they were onto something. โI remember Roland dancing around the studio,โ Hughes recalls, โwhich would crop up as and when he got over-excited.โ
It wasnโt only in the studio: the video also featured Orzabalโs unique moves and helped propel the record slowly up the UK charts, where it peaked at No.3 and gave the group their first crucial TOTP appearance.
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But this had repercussions: now they found themselves interrupted by publicity duties, and the pressure of success weighed heavily on them. โThe bar had been set quite high,โ Hughes confirms, โboth by the band internally and by record-company expectation. The culture developed, wrongly or rightly, that the longer it took, the more excellent it was.โ
Additionally โ according to Bates โ Orzabal, Smith, Hughes and Cullum were all perfectionists. โA lot of the time, it was myself and Roland wanting it one way,โ Smith remembers, โand Ross and Chris wanting it another way. So there was a two-against-two battle throughout the album.โ
โThe combination of that quartet led to a ridiculous amount of procrastination,โ Orzabal confides. โThere was a hell of a lot of pressure to get the thing done, so weโd be working seven days a week, until two oโclock in the morning. There was too much talk and too much theory. We couldnโt get anything onto tape if all four us didnโt agree. Thatโs the problem with democracy, isnโt it?โ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ The Hurting
In the end, it all proved worthwhile. Inspired by the likes of Bowieโs Scary Monsters, Talking Headsโ Remain In Light and Peter Gabrielโs third album (known as Melt), as well as by Janovโs primal-therapy theories, The Hurting was a pensive yet poppy concept album about childhood, which blended the duoโs explorations of their interior worlds.
โWe were your archetypal shoegazers,โ Orzabal claims โ with a melodic sensibility. Its melancholic tone couldve kept them away from the mainstream, but somehow its universal themes of alienation and teenage confusion connected with a mass audience. โThe reason it still has such appeal is that those are the feelings that surface,โ Orzabal states. โA lot of people go through that phase. We were happy to take on semi-intellectual concepts and try to turn them into hits.โ
The accessible nature of Pale Shelter and the fourth single, Change, meant their audience were prepared to indulge them in more challenging songs such as Ideas As Opiates and The Prisoner. This enabled The Hurting to knock Michael Jacksonโs Thriller off the UK top spot and remain in the UK charts for 65 weeks, achieving platinum status.
The record even reached the ears of the man that had inspired it, Arthur Janov, though the duo admit that their meeting didnโt go well. โHe was aware that weโd written the album based on primal theory,โ Smith relates. โHe came to a show and we felt like it was playing in front of God. He came backstage and he was incredibly nice, inviting us for lunch.โ
โWe were extremely nervous,โ Orzabal adds. โIt was the equivalent of somebody in Scientology meeting Ron Hubbard. Then we found out heโd written a musical. Yeah. Exactly. I just walked away thinking, โHmm. Never meet your heroes!โ The words to the musical were justโฆ worse than my own lyrics, actually!โ โIt seemed wrong,โ Smith summarises, โbecause we held him in such high regard that it seemed to commercialise the whole thing. Itโs like God turning up in a race-car driverโs jacket with sponsors.โ
Tears For Fears: The Hurting โ Pale Shelter
The Hurting stands as one of the great debut albums of the 1980s, beloved by artists as diverse as John Grant, Billy Corgan, Kanye West, MGMT, Swiss Beatz and Gwen Stefani. โOur audience goes from 16-year-old kids to 50-year-old parents,โ Smith states happily. โI think The Hurting is geared โ not intentionally, but because we were that age โ towards adolescence. It talks about those dark years of 18 to 23 when youโre trying to find yourself. That, I think, is because it has a depth of emotion and meaning.โ
โIt is,โ Orzabal concludes, โthe one true Tears For Fears record. The bandโs name, the whole ethos: everything we believed in was summed up in that record.โ
Read our feature on the making of Tears For Fearsโ Songs From The Big Chair
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The Hurting โ The Songs
The Hurting
The Hurting was inspired musically by Curt Smithโs recollections of a show by Bristol band Electric Guitars. โCurt described their music,โ Orzabal recalls, โand I wrote the guitar riff.โ The song was later sampled for Band Aidโs Do They Know Itโs Christmas? โI found that amusing,โ Smith laughs, โโcos they didnโt invite us!โ
Mad World
The first track recorded for the album, this breakthrough hit was inspired by the view from Orzabalโs Bath flat and originally slated as a B-side for Pale Shelter, until producer Chris Hughes and A&R David Bates recognised its considerable potential. โItโs a static melody,โ Orzabal admits. โCurtโs voice made the song legitimate, or else it wouldโve gone in the dumper.โ
Pale Shelter
First demoed at keyboard player Ian Stanleyโs studio, the bandโs second single earned them, according to Bates, โlittle nibbles but no biteโ. Among these was a John Peel session, broadcast in September 1982 (and included as part of the albumโs 30th Anniversary Edition). A love song about parents rather than partners, Pale Shelter was, Orzabal says, one of the albumโs more difficult compositions. โI had the verse for a long time but no chorus. My wife had this book on painting, and there was a Henry Moore work in there called โPale Shelterโ, about homeless people. I thought, โThatโs good,โ so then I came up with a chorus and the song was complete.โ Pale Shelter was later re-recorded by Smith for his Aeroplane EP, released in 2000.
Ideas As Opiates
The song that supplied the B-side to Mad World was also one of the albumโs most challenging tracks and was named after a chapter in Arthur Janovโs Prisoners Of Pain, published in 1980, 10 years after his seminal The Primal Scream. โNow, who the hell would write a song called that?โ Orzabal laughs, before recalling how it baffled John Peelโs engineers. โIt contains different chords โ a major third and a minor third together โ so we played them and the engineer stopped the tape. โYouโve made a mistake!โ he said. โNo,โ I said, โthatโs how it goes.โโ
Memories Fade
Featuring the key Janovian philosophy, โMemories fade but the scars still linger,โ this track was liberally โsampledโ, with largely new lyrics, by Kanye West for Coldest Winter on 808s & Heartbreak. โI was surprised because he didnโt really ask,โ says Orzabal. โBut when we do it live, we now use the Kanye West intro.โ โAs a tongue-in-cheek โF*** you!โโ Smith adds. โWe played live in Orange County a couple of years ago, and our nanny โ whoโs younger and looks after my two kids when weโre working โ came backstage and said, โThatโs fantastic you did that Kanye West song!โโ
Suffer The Children
Originally recorded with producer David Lord at Bathโs Crescent Studios โ โDavid heard the song,โ Orzabal recalls, โput about three layers of keyboards on and it was all done!โ โ this also features Graduateโs drummer, Andy Marsden. It became the bandโs debut single and was, oddly, compared to Joy Division by John Peel and NME. โIf you listen to the keyboard sound and the actual melody,โ Smith argues, โyou can tell that itโs influenced by Gary Numan.โ
Watch Me Bleed
In hindsight, neither Smith nor Orzabal show much affection for what is arguably The Hurtingโs most conventional song. โThere are three songs that, every time I think about having to maybe sing live, I cringe, โ Orzabal says. โOne is Suffer The Children, the second is Ideas As Opiates and the third is Watch Me Bleed, because it really is one hell of a โwoe is meโ song.โ
Change
Released as a single two months before The Hurting came out, but dismissed as โone of those cheap pop lyricsโ by Orzabal in a 1999 reissue, this was originally written for Orzabalโs wife to sing, until Smith heard more potential in it: โI loved the verse. I loved the simplicity of it. Lyrically, itโs nowhere near as deep as other songs but, having said that, you need some levity now and then. It brings balance to the record.โ
The Prisoner
Another song inspired by Prisoners Of Pain, this unsettling, provocative track owes a significant debt to Peter Gabrielโs third album. โHe would whisper behind the vocal to make it more creepy, and thatโs what we did,โ Orzabal reveals. โI love this song,โ Smith adds. โYou go from Change, which is relatively lighthearted, to The Prisoner, which is effectively noise. Itโs dark and angry and sad, because of the vocal.โ
Start of The Breakdown
Chosen as the album finale for its title as much as how the song closes โ โIt breaks down a bit,โ Smith explains, โwhich is intentional because of the title. So itโs a falling-apart thing, which we thought was a great endingโ โ this offers one of Orzabalโs most personal lyrics. โIt refers to my fatherโs nervous breakdown when I was two or three,โ he says. โNot a happy song.โ
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