Dee C Lee – Just Something interview
By Steve O'Brien | June 3, 2024
A one-time member of Wham! and The Style Council, as well as a solo artist, Dee C Lee had one of the most soulful voices in 80s pop. In 2024, after 26 years away, she’s returned with a new studio album.
Forty years ago, Dee C Lee was at the very centre of British pop. A backing vocalist for Wham!, a member of The Style Council and a solo artist in her own right, she seemed to be everywhere and to know everyone. Looking at her discography, it’s a roll-call of some of the most seismic pop names of the 80s and 90s – George Michael, Paul Weller, Dr Robert, Guru, Jamiroquai. But then, in 1998, after the release of her fourth album Smiles, the trail runs cold. Until now, that is.
“I needed a change, you know,” the singer tells Classic Pop, 26 years on from that farewell record. “It was different times. I was starting a family etc etc, and I suddenly realised, my children are having children and there’s only so many lunches with your friends you can do. It was time to get back to work.”
Just Something
And back to work she went. The resulting album, Just Something, then, is Dee C Lee’s first new solo material in over a quarter of a century. It’s a heavenly record, a warm, velvety slice of classic soul – and a timely reminder of the power and grace of one of the 80s’ most in-demand voices.
“I’d not physically sung in a long time,” she admits. “I’ve had a couple of shocks, I can tell you! You’re lucky that you’re not somebody who lives next door to me, cos there are some horrible sounds coming from this house. But they’re getting better, because I’m getting singing fit.”
We can only imagine that she’s exaggerating here – what we’d give to live next door to Dee C Lee and be treated to a free gig every morning. Music, you see, is baked into her at DNA level. The daughter of a postman (and part-time saxophonist) and a nurse (and part-time singer), her sister sometimes sings and her brother occasionally drums. “I’m the only one who made a living from it,” she laughs. “But there was a time when we could have been a Black version of The Partridge Family.”
Lee says she “never thought that she wouldn’t” be a performer full-time. In the late 70s she was a main face on the London scene and on first-name terms with many of the smoke’s up-and-coming artists. Juggling a receptionist job with session work, she hooked up with funk/soul outfit Central Line in the early 80s, and through them met Mark Dean from Innervision, the small indie label that had just signed a new pop duo by the name of Wham!
Leading A Dual Existence
“I was just in the right place at the right time,” she smiles, remembering the day in 1982 she first met George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley. “They were both really sweet and welcoming. I couldn’t help but fall in love with the pair of them.”
As a backing vocalist, Lee sang on such Wham! evergreens as Club Tropicana, Bad Boys, Wham Rap! (Enjoy What You Do) and Young Guns (Go for It), while at the same time beavering away on her own material. She admits she was always happiest within a band structure but, as time went on, there was pressure on her to go it alone. “I was told, ‘You’ve got a distinctive voice, you should give it a try,’” she recollects. “I wanted to push myself and see how far I could go as a singer and a songwriter in my own right.”
Lee’s breakthrough 45, of course, was See The Day, a soaring, soul-inflected power-ballad and one of the very first songs she’d written. “I knew it was good,” she says, “but the proof of the pudding is when other people hear it, and they freaked out, which made me freak out.”
The song, released in 1985, took Lee to UK No.3 and went Top 10 again 20 years later when Girls Aloud covered it. “I was so flattered,” Lee coos, “cos they were a massive pop group at the time. It just brought tears to my eyes.”
20 Feet From Stardom
At the same time as Lee was forging a path as a solo singer, she hadn’t given up on her work as a backing vocalist (“They’re a really big deal,” she says. “It’s another instrument that’s really important to the track”), and through the 80s was a sometime member of Paul Weller’s post-Jam soul group The Style Council, though when the Modfather approached her, she was one of the few people in the country who’d never even heard of his previous band. (She later married Weller, but that’s another story).
“At that time in my life, I’d stopped listening to pop music,” Lee explains. “I was only listening to jazz and funk. Not because I didn’t like pop, I was just trying to broaden my horizons.”
Weller, she says, called her up and offered her a place in his new outfit, having got her phone number from the Musician’s Union. “The first track I ever played on,” she tells us, “was Money-Go-Round (Part 1). I think that we actually recorded it the same day as my [Lee raises her hands for air quotes] ‘audition’. When Paul played it to me, I knew exactly what he was looking for.”
Four-On-The-Floor
The Style Council ground to a halt in 1989, by which time Lee had released her debut solo LP, 1986’s Shrine. But she was, by this time, “unsure of myself” and wasn’t certain she wanted to be front and centre anymore.
“It’s weird, having kids was everything that I wanted, but it took a lot of confidence from me,” Lee reveals. “Paul and I were still together and he said, ‘Why don’t you do what you used to do, why don’t we put a band thing together and you can hide behind it. You don’t have to be Dee C Lee. And if it comes out and it all goes to hell, it won’t really matter. But if it comes out and it does well, you can just enjoy it without the pressure of it being a Dee C Lee thing.’”
The ensuing band, Slam Slam, was made up of Weller with The Blow Monkeys’ Dr Robert and Lee on vocals, producing one album in 1991 and a couple of club hits in Move (Dance All Night) and Free Your Feelings.
“It was a bit of a house thing, which was really popular at the time,” Dee reflects, “and it helped me remember that yes, I can still sing, and yes, I can still perform. But then, after that, it just went quiet again. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think anyone was that bothered. The only option to me at that time to do anything would have been to do live work, which after doing so many years of it, I was really reluctant to do.”
Long Road Back
Instead, Lee retreated from the music biz, devoting her life to bringing up her two children with Weller – Nathaniel and Leah – while at the same time, “trying to work out who I was.”
“Suddenly, I wasn’t this person who could be up every night and do all the sort of things that I used to do,” she sighs. “And it took a really, really long time to get my head around being a parent, being responsible etc. By the time I got the hang of it, they’d all grown up and left home, so I was left a little bit floundering.”
The road to this comeback has been a long one, with Lee admitting she first pondered a return in 2019, before the pandemic scuppered everyone’s plans. What changed everything was a chance meeting with Eddie Piller, founder of the Acid Jazz label and a veteran mod-head, at the premiere of the 2020 Style Council documentary, Long Hot Summers.
“He was like, ‘What are you doing?’ And I was, ‘I don’t know, I want to do something’, and so he said, ‘Well, let’s get you back in the studio!’ Hence me signing to Acid Jazz and making this album and getting all this excitement back.”
Something Going
Though she had at that point retired from performing, Lee says she was writing songs all the way through her school run years and the tracks on Just Something are a blend of older numbers and ones written with this LP in mind, including a co-write with her old Style Council bud Mick Talbot.
“I won’t tell you which song it is,” she teases, asking Classic Pop if we can tell which track her former bandmate co-wrote and performs on. Walk Away, we suggest, is the most Style Council-like number on the record. Turns out we’re right.
“Style Council stroke Motown,” she offers. “But the thing about this album is it really does show all my influences. I listen to a lot of really, not that obscure, but stuff that’s only popular with muso types. But I’ve also come from a pop background, and I think you can feel that vibe of my whole career in this album.”
There’s also a song on the record penned by her daughter, Leah Weller, titled Everyday Summer. “I remember when I heard her writing it and she just put it on the back burner,” Lee says. “I told her I really liked the song, and she said, ‘Well, you have it then’. We needed another couple of tracks and it fitted the criteria. She loves my version, we really went to town on it. It’s just a great track, very simple. My daughter really is a bit of a mini me.”
Summer Soul
There’s an obvious glee that Lee feels at being back in the public eye after more than a quarter of a century. And there are, thrillingly, plans to return to live work. If there were doubts about herself in the 90s and noughties, that lack of confidence has been kicked into touch.
“I’ve never enjoyed it as much as I am right now, recording and making music again,” she beams. “It’s nice when you walk away from things. Sometimes when you come back, it’s really fresh and fabulous. I’ve been given so much love. I mean, I didn’t even think anybody would remember who I was! But for anybody who’s still interested, I can’t wait to get out there and show what I’ve got in me.”
In her early 60s, it appears that this long-awaited comeback has given Lee a fresh lease of life. “I feel that there’s something in me that as a performer that’s left to do,” she smiles. “I don’t even know what it is but it’s very exciting – and it’s definitely keeping me on my toes, which isn’t a bad thing at all…”
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Steve O'Brien
Steve O’Brien is a writer who specialises in music, film and TV. He has written for magazines and websites such as SFX, The Guardian, Radio Times, Esquire, The New Statesman, Digital Spy, Empire, Yours Retro, The New Statesman and MusicRadar. He’s written books about Doctor Who and Buffy The Vampire Slayer and has even featured on a BBC4 documentary about Bergerac. Apart from his work on Classic Pop, he also edits CP’s sister magazine, Vintage Rock Presents.www.steveobrienwriter.com